Wid's 180 and FW 190

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Re: Wid's Cessna 180

Postby Mitch » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:48 pm

So 'peanut' size. Isn't that 12" ws. I have been told that a prop of 30 to 40% of ws is desirable. I am leaning more to 30 % . The bigger that number the more torque effect you are going to have on you plane. It looks like you have a 6" prop on this little thing, and in my limited experience I would say that that is too much for these little wings to handle.

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Re: Wid's Cessna 180

Postby WIDDOG » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:11 am

Hi Mitch great advice as always.

I'm no expert at Peanuts that is for sure. I do have the book Peanut Power by Bill Hannan. Peanuts started out at 12 wing span but is now 13 inch maxium wing span.
I don't know if this makes a differnce or not but I have been using Semi Scale kits and not Scale kits. This may look kind of funny but I have some video of a 900 Series Bird Dog reduced to a Peanut sized model. I used three differnt sized propellers. A 7 inch, 6 inch and a 5 inch propeller were used in this experiment. This is no way meant to be conclusive. It's just a video i made. http://youtu.be/AX-E4HWCPyI.
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Re: Wid's Cessna 180

Postby Bill Gaylord » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:53 am

That's classic how it got back up and took off on it's own. :D
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Re: Wid's Cessna 180

Postby WIDDOG » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:51 pm

I decided that i needed more practise before i started the P 38. I decided to start a "Supreme Flyer's" Steve Patti Company "Focke-Wulf 190 kit number 202. I downloaded the plans from the Outerzone website. I have a complet kit in mint condition of the Hawker Typhoon. I will be using several items i purchased from Guillow's. For example the 1/16 inch squar stringers. decals, wheels, propeller shaft, thrust button and Don Ross Book. So I hope it's ok to post the build here.
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Re: Wid's Cessna 180

Postby Bill Gaylord » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:07 pm

The little 190 will be interesting. I like the 18" Keil Kraft version also. If you need any lightweight canopies let me know. I have small molds where the canopy could easily be trimmed to fit a slightly small version than they're made for.
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Re: Wid's Cessna 180

Postby WIDDOG » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:27 pm

Bill Gaylord wrote:The little 190 will be interesting. If you need any lightweight canopies let me know..


Well this kit is too old of course to have come with any plastic parts. The intructions say " Use Celluliod to simulate a canopy. I think Celluliod is old camera film? That's the only problem i have with old kits is no canopy.

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Re: Wid's Cessna 180

Postby Billy Mc » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:21 pm

WIDDOG wrote: I think Celluliod is old camera film? That's the only problem i have with old kits is no canopy.


It's plastic. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/101626/celluloid
Some you can use thin plastic sheet like the window of a cake box and some canopies you can cut from plastic bottles. The new water bottles are made from very thin plastic.
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Re: Wid's 180 and FW 190

Postby Bill Gaylord » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:17 am

190 canopies fold up well from a flat pattern that looks kinda like a Christmas tree with a bucket under it. The only kicker is not making a 100% hard fold line along the main canopy section that would be formed around something like a small rod, while the front windscreen panes are formed with a hard fold line.
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Re: Wid's 180 and FW 190

Postby WIDDOG » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:45 pm

I have the wings rough framed.
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Re: Wid's 180 and FW 190

Postby Mitch » Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:28 pm

I think the celluloid they are referring to is the clear wrapper around the cigarette packs. I seem to remember that some kit specified that type of clear material. I remember asking my Dad for the wrapper from his 'Chesterfields'. But Dad quit smoking a long time ago.
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Re: Wid's 180 and FW 190

Postby davidchoate » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:28 am

I know I've seen canopies made by Sig or someone for scrtchbuilds. If you cant improvise a vacuum forming device; finding something as close to the size the canopy you need from a newer kit would be My plan.
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Re: Wid's 180 and FW 190

Postby WIDDOG » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:07 pm

The paper model buildiers use paper and clear tape to build their canopies. Image
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Re: Wid's 180 and FW 190

Postby Billy Mc » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:21 pm

Looks like an Ercoupe. Nice job of a paper plane,
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Re: Wid's 180 and FW 190

Postby WIDDOG » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:46 am

I got the fuselage rough framed. I used Guillow's 1/16 inch stringers. They worked great. BTW i ordered the F 14 1/16 inch stringers they once again worked out great.

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Re: Wid's 180 and FW 190

Postby WIDDOG » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:13 am

I finished the Peanut FW 190 this morning. I have no worries about posting here. Becuase, I used Guillows asscesories to build the kit. I would like to see Guillow's make a Peanut Series. I was able to "Scratch Build" this kit ok: Execpt for the Canopy. I used clear tape to make a canopy. Anyway with A2Z no longer offering their Peanut kits. It would seem to me that the demand for Peanuts would increase as well. I admit that Guillow's knows a heck of lot more about the model airplane bussness than i do.

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