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Re: Rapier Madness. 24mm EDF

Postby WIDDOG » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:57 pm

I was getting ready to call it quits on the Jets. Than out of nowhere I see a 'Flash Fighter" capacitor powered Free Flight toy model airplane from Radio Shack. The plane of course is a Foamie. It looks a kind of like an F 22 Raptor, Anyway for under $10 I think this is a great deal.

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Re: Rapier Madness. 24mm EDF

Postby davidchoate » Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:44 pm

does anyone know the code to download photos to this forum?
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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby Steve Blanchard » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:35 pm

there is no code.
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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby WIDDOG » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:01 pm

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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby WIDDOG » Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:59 pm

Well not much getting posted tonight. I am interested in trying to design and build an A 7 Corsair ll.

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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby kittyfritters » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:13 pm

WIDDOG wrote:Well not much getting posted tonight. I am interested in trying to design and build an A 7 Corsair ll.

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The proportions of this one make it a very good choice. You could fudge the wing area and no one would really notice, and the fat fuselage would be ideal for a ducted fan. If I can ever find the time I'm still going to try a rubber powered ducted fan. :wink:

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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby davidchoate » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:54 pm

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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby WIDDOG » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:39 pm

Hi Howard,

RDF rubber powered duct fan wow that sounds so cool. I am thinking about going with rubber power and maybe a push propeller set up. I found a picture with head on view of the fuselage formers.

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I am thinking about trying a build.
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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby davidchoate » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:36 am

coolest jet ever. ME 262
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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby WIDDOG » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:37 am

I found a plan for the A7 Corsair at http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php. Under their plans gallery.
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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby WIDDOG » Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:48 am

I'm not calling this a "Build" yet... I would say it's more of a "See How It Goes" ... Anyway I did get a set of plans printed out at Peanut Scale size. i.e. a wingspan under 13 inches greater than 9 inches. It seems to finial measure out at 11.5 inch wing span. Also I started to pin and glue Balsa wood together.

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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby David Lewis » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:07 am

WIDDOG wrote: "There are a couple of things about the bottle rocket propellant. I guess the main problem is the model would be propelled way too fast."

Thrust seems to be roughly proportional to cross sectional area of the rocket motor. I glued two small diameter bottle rocket motors to a Guillow's glider, it flew nicely and left a contrail. To calculate thrust required for level flight, divide gross weight by glide ratio.
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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby davidchoate » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:33 am

I know theres all kinds of simple chemical mixtures(like those guys who put mentos in soda) to be experimented with,but ever since 9/11 you gotta be careful, or the NSA is gonna come to see your model. They'll probably call it a Drone, or ICBM, or something.http://imageshack.com/a/img707/5588/xsa2.jpg
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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby WIDDOG » Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:53 pm

For me personally I'm on my way out of rocket powered model airplanes. Unless of course Rapier motors come back into production. Which I don't see happening. Don't get me wrong here I still like to read about rocket powered model airplanes it's just not my bag anymore. I guess the main reservation I have about rocket powered model airplanes is the smoke I was getting from my homemade sugar and tree stump remover propellant motors. I do not have access to bottle rockets till June/July.

Anyway I think EDF electric duct fan motors would be great it's just that I'm no good with electric. I do still have my old Cox. O.010 Pee Wee motor I had from when I was a kid. I could possibly make a Cox motor duct fan. I'm just not there yet.
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Re: Free Flight Jet models.

Postby davidchoate » Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:47 pm

I recall seeing a utube video of a guy who built a ducted fan plane that weighed like 11g. it fit in the palm of his hand, and flew quite well.
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